Post by Lunar13 on May 26, 2005 3:05:55 GMT -5
hey I got a suicidal friend and was talking to him last night when someone PM'ed me to play some samurai shodown and I was ignoring them at first becuase I was talking to my suicidal friend, who I am really stressed out over. This is what the person had to say...(names have been changed to protect privacy)
someone: soup want play you agree to terms yes / no
someone: we caught u
someone: dont ignore
Lobos PR: sorry, was talking to my suicidal friend
someone: does he play samurais too
Lobos PR: I'm not jokeing
someone: wat hapen did he get herpies
Lobos PR: joke all you want. this is serious. He's just lead a depressing life, been in the hospital most his life cuz of defects, and has no friends
someone: f
Lobos PR: known him for about 6 years
someone: ppl say they will killthemself all the time
someone: if they are serious they wont talk to you about it
someone: because if he is talking to u he obvously wants to change his life
Lobos PR: yes
Lobos PR: thats why I am still talking to him
Lobos PR: but he is contemplating none the less
Lobos PR: and I have known him for a long time and he's never done this, and hes not one to talk about anything lightly
someone: i garante if hes talking to you about it hes not gonna do it
someone: and is just bored
Lobos PR: sorry, but I studied some pyschology, and statistics show that when people say the things he does, its very serious, and should never be taken lightly. Perhaps you are young and have a somewhat jaded and naive look on suicide becuase of what you have seen in the media or from the exposure of talking to people on the internet where many like to play mind games and such, I dont expect you to understand or beleive whats going on, but I thought I'd atleast give you a reason for not responding
someone: wowaoee
someone: thats like the xact opposite of what they say in npsyhoclogicly
someone: 95% of ppl who say they are gonna do it
someone: only want attention
someone: sry do i sem young cus i don:t use a period???
someone: her wea go.
someone: suicide is not serious
Lobos PR: how old are you?
someone: ne1 who says they are is lying
someone: and anyone who is actually gonna do it
someone: is so f**ken selfish they deserve to die anyway
someone: 18
Lobos PR: exactly my point
Lobos PR: especially with the comment about them deserving to die
someone: so you're saying it's immature to say that?
Lobos PR: yes
someone: and suicide is a mature and "grown up" thing?
someone: used by smart people only?
someone: well thats wrong
someone: there is nothing serious about suicide
someone: its someones stupid decision
Lobos PR: that comment only shows your lack of ability to comprehind what someone is saying
someone: nay
Lobos PR: its immature to take it lightly
someone: no
someone: you said youve been to sycologic class
someone: but if u had u would have known
someone: its like 1 outta 10,000 that actually do it
someone: when they say they are gonna do it
Lobos PR: the whole point is its the first stage
Lobos PR: a cry for help
someone: a cry for attention
Lobos PR: if its not answered their chance of actually doing it goes up
someone: no
Lobos PR: go look at statistics
someone: ur frend wont kill himself
someone: wat statistics
someone: plz show me
someone: i need them
Lobos PR: let me see if I can find them on a google search, I read this some time ago in school
someone: STATISTIC: ppl who say they are gonna killthesemf to ppl on the internet but dont respond
someone: gonna kill themself more likelyl??
Lobos PR: its not the fact that its the internet
Lobos PR: its the fact that I am one of his closest friends
Lobos PR: and its late and we just happen to be online
someone is away at 3:40:47 AM.
someone returned at 3:44:10 AM.
Lobos PR: "Have you ever heard someone say that people who talk about suicide won't actually go through with it? That's a myth - people who talk about it may be likely to try it. If you have a friend who is talking about suicide, don't wait to see if he or she starts to feel better."
here is the link to this. Sorry I couldnt find number statistics kidshealth.org/teen/your_mind/problems/talking_about_suicide.html
someone is away at 3:55:00 AM.
Yeah, he pretty much didnt want to comment after I gave him proof. Thing is I may have came off as insulting his intelegence by calling him naive, but the fact that an 18 yr old is trying to tell me he knows my friend who I have known for 6 years is bluffing is something I dont take lightly. As you see this conversation became a battle of the ego's rather than haveing an understanding that I couldnt play games right now becuase I have a friend who is in need of help...
The point I want to get across is that suicide is nothing to be taken lightly and just becuase your a teenager and think you know it all dont mean you dont need to take a hard look in the mirror. Once you get out in the real world for a few years, you wont realize just how much misconceptions that you used to hold as absolute truth are now very VERY silly misconceptions. Unfortionally some adults never mature and still think they know it all. The fact of the matter is no matter how much you think you know doesnt mean you know the correct information on a certian subject, so when you come off as self righteous, your only making yourself look like an idiot.
Anyway, I was only calling him naive in order to promote wisdom of understanding that there is much to learn about the world, not as an insult. If I wanted to be insulting I would have said, "You dumbass little kid, you dont know what the f**k your talking about, shut the f**k up and go back to school you f**king tard" But I didnt now did I?
someone: soup want play you agree to terms yes / no
someone: we caught u
someone: dont ignore
Lobos PR: sorry, was talking to my suicidal friend
someone: does he play samurais too
Lobos PR: I'm not jokeing
someone: wat hapen did he get herpies
Lobos PR: joke all you want. this is serious. He's just lead a depressing life, been in the hospital most his life cuz of defects, and has no friends
someone: f
Lobos PR: known him for about 6 years
someone: ppl say they will killthemself all the time
someone: if they are serious they wont talk to you about it
someone: because if he is talking to u he obvously wants to change his life
Lobos PR: yes
Lobos PR: thats why I am still talking to him
Lobos PR: but he is contemplating none the less
Lobos PR: and I have known him for a long time and he's never done this, and hes not one to talk about anything lightly
someone: i garante if hes talking to you about it hes not gonna do it
someone: and is just bored
Lobos PR: sorry, but I studied some pyschology, and statistics show that when people say the things he does, its very serious, and should never be taken lightly. Perhaps you are young and have a somewhat jaded and naive look on suicide becuase of what you have seen in the media or from the exposure of talking to people on the internet where many like to play mind games and such, I dont expect you to understand or beleive whats going on, but I thought I'd atleast give you a reason for not responding
someone: wowaoee
someone: thats like the xact opposite of what they say in npsyhoclogicly
someone: 95% of ppl who say they are gonna do it
someone: only want attention
someone: sry do i sem young cus i don:t use a period???
someone: her wea go.
someone: suicide is not serious
Lobos PR: how old are you?
someone: ne1 who says they are is lying
someone: and anyone who is actually gonna do it
someone: is so f**ken selfish they deserve to die anyway
someone: 18
Lobos PR: exactly my point
Lobos PR: especially with the comment about them deserving to die
someone: so you're saying it's immature to say that?
Lobos PR: yes
someone: and suicide is a mature and "grown up" thing?
someone: used by smart people only?
someone: well thats wrong
someone: there is nothing serious about suicide
someone: its someones stupid decision
Lobos PR: that comment only shows your lack of ability to comprehind what someone is saying
someone: nay
Lobos PR: its immature to take it lightly
someone: no
someone: you said youve been to sycologic class
someone: but if u had u would have known
someone: its like 1 outta 10,000 that actually do it
someone: when they say they are gonna do it
Lobos PR: the whole point is its the first stage
Lobos PR: a cry for help
someone: a cry for attention
Lobos PR: if its not answered their chance of actually doing it goes up
someone: no
Lobos PR: go look at statistics
someone: ur frend wont kill himself
someone: wat statistics
someone: plz show me
someone: i need them
Lobos PR: let me see if I can find them on a google search, I read this some time ago in school
someone: STATISTIC: ppl who say they are gonna killthesemf to ppl on the internet but dont respond
someone: gonna kill themself more likelyl??
Lobos PR: its not the fact that its the internet
Lobos PR: its the fact that I am one of his closest friends
Lobos PR: and its late and we just happen to be online
someone is away at 3:40:47 AM.
someone returned at 3:44:10 AM.
Lobos PR: "Have you ever heard someone say that people who talk about suicide won't actually go through with it? That's a myth - people who talk about it may be likely to try it. If you have a friend who is talking about suicide, don't wait to see if he or she starts to feel better."
here is the link to this. Sorry I couldnt find number statistics kidshealth.org/teen/your_mind/problems/talking_about_suicide.html
someone is away at 3:55:00 AM.
Yeah, he pretty much didnt want to comment after I gave him proof. Thing is I may have came off as insulting his intelegence by calling him naive, but the fact that an 18 yr old is trying to tell me he knows my friend who I have known for 6 years is bluffing is something I dont take lightly. As you see this conversation became a battle of the ego's rather than haveing an understanding that I couldnt play games right now becuase I have a friend who is in need of help...
The point I want to get across is that suicide is nothing to be taken lightly and just becuase your a teenager and think you know it all dont mean you dont need to take a hard look in the mirror. Once you get out in the real world for a few years, you wont realize just how much misconceptions that you used to hold as absolute truth are now very VERY silly misconceptions. Unfortionally some adults never mature and still think they know it all. The fact of the matter is no matter how much you think you know doesnt mean you know the correct information on a certian subject, so when you come off as self righteous, your only making yourself look like an idiot.
Anyway, I was only calling him naive in order to promote wisdom of understanding that there is much to learn about the world, not as an insult. If I wanted to be insulting I would have said, "You dumbass little kid, you dont know what the f**k your talking about, shut the f**k up and go back to school you f**king tard" But I didnt now did I?
