Killing the drama

[Vansibel]

People who know me are aware that I despise all the drama nonsense around a fighting game communities, and despite my willing effort, this place isn't exempt of it. Hell, a bunch of people goes to those place just for the drama. Some users might have been aware that I recently banned p100q from the board, and it wasn't related to the game itself but over some argument we had. I think I always used to be tolerating and try to keep a good relation with other ss4 players, because as far as the numbers goes, the last thing the ss4 community need is division amongs itself. I know that much that some peoples will probably never get along together, but there wasn't any real reason to ban someone who, in the end, haven't done something harmfull to the board itself. Beside, it's not like the forum have been very active yet. The ss4 domination over kaillera always played over 2 or 3 peoples, but very dedicated players. It's hard to draw the line sometime because netplay isn't perfect, so there always be excuses. Really good ss4 players on kaillera are rather rare, so most of the times the pros are just eating noobs, heh. Winning so much can highten someone ego at a point of becoming unplaesant. And when those peoples (pro) are fighting together, it can become really nasty (because they aren't used to losing). Talking smack after a fight is the best way to piss people off. It's just casuals over an half finished netplay software some guy did in his free time for crying out loud. I 'd say it rather amuse me when I rape some beginner, and then they stand proudly on their half "beated-to-dead" horse and say "Are you really vans ? I tought you were better...". But Personally, I never beasted on newbies unless they asked for it. I mean, if you want me to just split your atoms over and over just say it and I'll only use my best characters and i'll play to win. Some peoples deserve the hate they get, p100q probably being the first (he did said a lot of things in the past). Anyway, I just want this nonsense to stop, say GG after a match and don't talk smack. Feel free to add your 2 cents or something.

[giveitamplz]

what did 100 do

[nwaps]

Finally!
I've had the same problems with people online, that's the reason why i choose to play less. I've also come with the type of people who just want to get you fired up and then next thing you know they leave or crash the server for no reason... And YES!! i do agree with Vans .. Kaillera is an unfinished program that i enjoy using, if you don't like it why dont you just dont use it, being a programmer myself i dont find it to be simple to create a program like kaillera .For all the people who keep on whining just go and make your own little program if you can, if you can't then just be grateful you are able to play against people around the globe even if it is bad, at least you can get that adrenaline rush knowing that you're playing someone from the other side of the world.

Alas when will people learn... Even if im really bad at a game i dont' go around taunting others (unless im joking around but i'll let people know if im doing that), cause that's just disrespectful since all these people probably had been playing for a long time. Geez, can't people just accept defeat? I dont mind getting a good beating every once in a while because guess what? it makes you better in the end...

ok, all i have to say is STOP WHINING and play for fun not to be the best

[Shift]

Despise it or not, the drama is yet another part of the game man. Kaillera itself maybe doesnt need drama, but boards certainly do. Otherwise they become stale and boring.

Banning p100q for whatever reason (a personal reason really) is probably a bad idea. This may be your site and your forum, vans... but ultimately the idea was it was to be a samsho4 site.... not a worshippers of vans gathering.

I do get annoyed with p100q sometimes (to the point where i wont even play him) but all in all, he means well, and is a great guy.

Fact, I remember when samsho5sp had just come out, and the help I got from you Vans... was "im not here for technical support" and then you left. P100q on the other hand, hooked me up with the rom and gettin it to work.

Ego and lag tactics maybe mar the issue, but p100q is (was) dedicated to the community aspect of your site, and only cause he loves the game. Personal disputes aside, you should allow him to stay. If its really about "the community" then there is only one course of action.

Btw... when are the rest of us goin to move past the "beginner" status? What about custom titles?

[Vansibel]

p100q was unbanned before I actually wrote this post, and as much as your opinion matter, I don't consider it making much sense since you aren't aware of all that have been happening. Beside, like I said, it wasn't related to lag tactic (at least not in a conflict between me and p100q) or wathever you say (not even related to the game actually, I did had some good matches with p100q). And about the ss5sp things, you probably got me in a bad day because if you ask peoples who know me (ironically, p100q being the first ) you'll know that i'm usually willing to help. But you probably just barged in my game and without even playing a single match or say hi, requested the d**n rom. I'm sorry if I mistaken you for those generic kaillera lamers and rom beggers . Personally, I don't care much if there some drama on the board, it's just isn't my cup of tea. So feel free to start some, I'll just take actions if it's going too far.

[DeeZ]

maybe this isn't a new idea, but i wouldn't know because i havent read thru all the forums and posts yet.....but anyone interested in having some kind of weekly members only meet in one of the kaillera servers...... where we can slash each others brains out? It would be a great way to start some drama on these message boards >:).....all in good fun tho, of course ;)




#nosmileys

[Vansibel]

DeeZ said:

maybe this isn't a new idea, but i wouldn't know because i havent read thru all the forums and posts yet.....but anyone interested in having some kind of weekly members only meet in one of the kaillera servers...... where we can slash each others brains out? It would be a great way to start some drama on these message boards >.....all in good fun tho, of course

I tried to start some kind of ritual gathering, but it didn't catched much attention so far. Feel free to give any idea amakusa2k5.proboards40.com/index.cgi?board=Netplay&action=display&thread=1109402874

[Snaksolid]

LOL. Just to let you know Vans, when I was still very new to the game, I used to say that stuff just to piss you off cuz I knew you'd probably end up doing your best if I did that. At the time,there were alota players who wouldn't try their best on me,even if I asked them politely, just cuz I wasn't that good (understandable,but it still made me mad cuz I wanted to get better). But now I understand your point of veiw. Im gettin sick of alota people bein such jerks on kaillera. You can get your point across without cursing every second sentence. As for the lame crackers and closers,thats just a part of netplay (unfortounantly).

[laurel]

snake, actually u learned so fast, and the best thing is u are working on ur own way but coping someone else. i am looking forward ur next big improve.

for p100q, yeah, i realized hes kinda polite now, oops, id better say normal. cuz he was out of mind always before,kinda like a jerk. no matter how good or how bad he is now, i decline to play with him forever, vans can beat him easily, thats all.

and for guys who already played with me, ya, i never pick my weak guys aganist u guys, all i have to do is that rush u till u leave, no matter u are noob or hardcore. but if u are my friends, yes, i will share my experience while playing and let u know my strategy, and u will probably get better.


I am polite for most guys while playing. just as what van's mentioned, i win too much, i may lil care about lose, but i accept losing if u are good, whatever , i am polite for the most time.

and theres one thing i have to say. someone just told me " i can't see much difference between u and p100q"
yes, theres not much difference , why? cuz p100q copied all my strategies and moves. if u are telling me this again, i will do my cheapest way on u and beg u shut up if u don't know the history of p100q.


Vans, i have to apologize if i am lil rude here, but i must say, there are 2 xxx jerks who i hate so much. p100q and rey2.

[DeeZ]

yo laurel i seriously hope your life extends beyond this website and this game.....cuz if u trying hurt someones feelings by saying your better then them because u can beat them at this game then u must not have much going for you..keep the smack talking between yourselves and stop postin it if u got a problem private message them.....this is just a game

peace

[laurel]

lol, ya , number of years passed, i can still easily to notice u are still a noob and jerk. i thought u are not now, bad thing is u are still are. i am sorry for u.

[laurel]

sorry vans, i decline to talk with thoes guys anymore, i feel i am kina a noob or jerk while talk with p100q. if u wanna find me , just go with msn. i will be there.

[p100q]

[Shift]

Aint nothin better than bickerin in engrish.

FATARITY!!!

[Vansibel]

I already stated in my initial post about the fact that some peoples wouldn't be able to get along, you guys are now the proof. Frankly, when I put SOA together I was hoping to gather every decent ss4 players that were still active on kaillera, even those I had grudge against. The fact is, most of them were still the most experienced players that were still actively playing the game so refusing to play or talk to them just leave you to play against beginner, or worse, the cpu. To be honest now theres nothing much left that piss me off anymore about the game and what other people call "cheap" because I've been fighting against those techniques so often that they arent as effective. That being said, I can hardly based the hate I have on someone over such a childish reason. Even when it occured I wasn't angry at the player and I just swallowed my pride when I lost no matter how "cheap" the other seems to be. If you guys want to hate each other forever that's your buisness, but since the remaining number of those in which the flame still burn for the game is so small, I wish you luck into finding someone worthy to fight. There a few peoples who still seek to learn the game but this is such a long road to actually become good at it. I don't expect the 1/10 of them to actually have the guts or the dedication to even learn the game troughfully, let alone the fact of becoming exeptionally good. So that leave us with only a small number of peoples. Altought me and p100q aren't the best friends, we know how to get over it and have a good match. Same thing with REy2, someone who I have been fighting for years but only talked recently, to realise he's not such a bad guy.
I sure won't complain of peoples copying my technique if it allow me to find stronger opponents, but thing is, even if I made all that knowledge available, I still see peoples wasting a throw to do a 14 hitter or a standing B. Then they ask for tips and stuff, while I spent temendrous effort to put the site up but they are just too lazy to even read. I beleive that real pro will find a way to innovate, and I can hardly complain about those who "copy", and when they do i'll just seek to use the said technique more effectively, so I really don't know what's the big deal about it.
To Laurel, I know you still hold a grudge against so much peoples, but there's no need to come here and start hostility. I'm sure that you were the first surprised that I let p100q in again, but thing is, if I'm about to ban everyone over an argument, there will be no one left to talk about samsho. Frankly, I despise peoples over kaillera. I realise now why the mame developpers never wanted to develop their own network software. It's because they don't to want to lure that crowd over their place. You shall all see in SOA as an attemp to stand and say that there's peoples beyond that. Please don't seek to change this place like that trash over kaillera.com bbs.