Samurai Spirits AW [Update#03]

[p100q]

[glow=red,2,300]Command List[/glow]
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Introduction of Samurai Spirits AW.

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[glow=red,2,300]"Sword Mode"[/glow]
Sword Mode allows you to fill the Spirit Gage at the bottom of a screen in an offensive way.
(That is a quiet similar to a "Meditation Bar" in Samsho5sp.)

1. You must attack the opponent to obtain this.

2. Once the gage is being charged, you can use a Special Move.
(Sp Mode; ¡ý¨K¡ú+AB, but some characters are exclusive as a various input requires in some case.)

3. If the Spirit Gage reaches the point of ÃØŠWÁx, (Secret Justice), you can also use another Sp Secret Move.
(Sp-S Mode;¡ý¨K¡ú+BC, but you can avoid the guarded damage by using A+B at the moment.)

4. "A+B" move can be used as 100% Guard except a grab.
(The Spirit Gage goes down when A+B Guard is being used at each moment.)

Ex: If the opponent gets hit by a Strong C Slash, he can use A+B to retreat his postion of being canceled and then, he can counter with less delay FPS time. In other words, if there is no Spirit Gage left, then you can not retreat after you are being canceled by a certain hit. This also explains that it is possible to perform a certain combo moves as opposed to Samsho5sp which is quiet limited to its low-setting FPS rate. Instead of doing a Matrix Move ;D in Samsho5sp, you get to perform a lot of moves based on your Spirit Gage which should anticipate in various mind-set from a counter to guard, and even to cancel the versatile ability that can lead to a certain combo moves.

[glow=blue,2,300]"Rage Mode"[/glow]
Rage Mode allows you to obtain the Spirit Gage in a defensive way.
(It also has a higher level on both Defense & Offense.)

1. You must get damaged, in order to increase the Spirit Gage.
(This is a quiet similiar to Beginer Mode in Samsho4.)

2. You can not perform a ÃØŠWÁx, (Secret Justice). (Sp-S Mode;¡ý¨K¡ú+BC)

3. You can perform A+B Armor Mode to counter while being attacked.
(Your motion stays the same with A+B while being attacked.)

Ex: You pretend to use a short FPS move to let the opponent counter you easily and then, as soon as you get hit, you cancel right at the moment with A+B. It's like a game of Blackjack.

In Rage Mode, when the Spirit Gage is at Max, you can damage a lot more as much as what Haomaru would do with his Strong Slash in Samsho5sp.

The opponnet who selects a Rage Mode, he will often expect you to attack first, in order to obtain the Spirit Gage at Max. But if you are in a Sword Mode, then you must hit the opponent to regain the Spirit Gage, otherwise, you will likely to lose more as you counter with A+B.

In that perspective, it creates a certain situation where you failed to perform a greater damage hit after suceeding in Armor Mode; however, the opponnet who selects a Rage Mode can not only to counter right after your false move, but also, he is able to use his Spirit Gage at max.
You have to remember that the opponnet can often anticipate beyond your limit. He can use his defensieve tactic in an opposite way. Therefore, you have to use a variety style like you have to pretend like you are going to counter in Armor Mode. The opponnet will likely be put in a defensive position, in order to either counter, or block your next move. Instead, you can cancel your move into a running Dash and then, you go grab your opponnet instead. Since A+B Armor Mode doesn't apply to a grab cancel, it can be less risky without giving too much Spirit Gage to the opponent in Rage Mode.

This is a simple example to give you an idea, but there are a lot more that you can do to anticipate rather than doing a turtle all day. I like this new game play, by the way.

[glow=green,2,300]Items[/glow]
They bought back the old idea from Samsho2 as well. You can pick up an item during the match. It seems like they made this for an entertaiment. I doubt; however, that this will be used a lot in a tournament. Only a challanger can decide to use an item during the match. If the challanger selects to use an item, then both player can use the item during the match. Otherwise, it can be simply ignored if a challenger choose not to. I really like this. It seems like they try to add every bit of each from all series. At the same time, however, it's only a use of preference.

[glow=limegreen,2,300]Button Uses[/glow]
There are 5 buttons.

A___B___C
D_______E

This is a set-up of Control Panel on the Arcade Machine.

A: Weak Slash
B: Medium Slash
C: Strong Slash
D: Kick
E: Special Key

AB: Full Guard, or Armor Mode

BC: Grab

¨K+C: Down Attack
(There is no difference between Fw+C, or Dn+C, but it must be done in Dn-Fw position only)
Ex: Genjuro's Strong Slash

AD: Item Pick-Up

E: Stand Dodge (Samsho4)

¡ý + E: Downn Dodge (Samsho5sp)

¡û + E: Short Jump (Samsho5sp)

E (while being knocked down): You can get up faster. The difference is that you can not just mash button to get up like what you do in Samsho4. You have to push E button right at the moment as you hit the ground. In other words, you can avoid a Smash-Down (B+C move in Samsho5sp) as long as you can counter beforehand. You can also counter something like what Kazuki does. When the opponent gets knocked down, you would usually do HCB+Slash to add a fire frame. You can even counter that.

P.S...You might have to Encode this to Chiness Simplified (GB 18030) if you notice an error.
This source was provided by Sihon, and by those who have tested this game.

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Pat

[Hiko]

you can find some pics and report by iggy from the loke test on the madman café bulletin board , i don t give direct links coz i have no idea if it s ok with them or not .

cya

[Vansibel]

You can download a screenshot pack here syobon.com/upload/src/syobon26159.lzh

I must say I'm terribly dissapointed by how this game is looking so far. To me it just don't have the feel of a samurai game. I mean, look at those background and the general presentation, it look like a 20th century wrestling show with wannabe samurai wearing costume. I could have lived with yet AGAIN reashed sprite, but this... It almost look like matrimelee2 or something. I really don't know where playmore want to go with this franchise, but they obviously gonna loose a big part of the former snk audience. Samurai shodown wasn't a series only appealing for it's refined gameplay, but his unequaled atmosphere surrounding samurai and the theme of death. I liked that touch in each title of the series. A fight between samurai is something serious, and is most likely gonna end up by the death of one of the opponent (at least in the setting on the previous games). Now looking at this, it's almost as if they gonna wash their makeup and fake blood once the fight is over. Starting with 5 they butchered the story, now they butcher the atmosphere, the only thing left is the gameplay. Of course it can still be a good game only with that, but If they just gonna past their ss5 job I guess ss5sp can do the trick until they come with something new... Then again, aw won't get emulated soon so I doubt people here will play it between them (altought it could get live, which would actually be good, but it's far from being done). I certainly could live with a flawless game if we only talking about gameplay, but I'm just feeling sorry to see what's everything else that made the samurai shodown so attractive is no more. I don't feel any "spirit" in this game...

[RWD]

What was seen on those photo's was varing quality I thought - some shots looked like it would be a decent SS game, while others made it look messy and nasty... meh, it's still early days for it so alot can change, and i'll reserve my judgement until I play it myself.

Gotta love bald Gaira though...

[DarkUkyo]

Heres the site with all the info on the game. I used google to translate it from french to English.


translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.neo-arcadia.com%2FNews%2Fvoir_news.php?action=voirtout&langpair=fr|en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

[Vansibel]

There a detailed report of someone who was there chris-and.nihongonauts.com/index.php?p=34

By looking at the shot again, it also look like the blood have been removed and instead we have super white electric splash (capVSsnk)

[Moonruler]

It's quite hard to tell exactly what to expect of this game so far. Sh*** pics alone don't explain much. However, I read that review that was posted and the guy said that it was like a mix of SS2 and 5sp. That sounds promising to me, since my favorite is SS2. Yet, it's still too early to make a judgement call on this.

[nwaps]

From the pics i saw, this game reminds me of World Heroes 2 Jet. With brighter graphics of course

[setsuna.lee]

yeah all background remind me WH series too
its ugly ( I love karnov revenge too =)

about the system its looks like promising on paper I hope it will be same ingame ( rumble fish is good looking on paper but ingame its another story)

btw I have to save money now in order to play this future SS =)

and plz snkp yuki or whatever dont forget to include Shiki Asra EQ even if its copy paste from svc or nbc lol

[RWD]

p100q said:

Final Conclusion....

This game is amazing. It's not even 2D anymore. It's all about using precise move & prediction. You can counter anything from various situation. I've been just asking for something like this for years. We just needed to add a bit and fix it in Samsho4. Instead, we've been through a tough time, watching a Samurai-wanna-be game for a couple of years. I wonder what would happen if NeoGeo has 5 buttons. I believe that Samsho4 would've done something like this a long time ago.

The bottom line is this game provides a good graphic quality and its game play that makes better sense than other series. I can not make a comment on its sound quality or anything else.

I personally do not like a new title of the game.
I do not like those new characters neither like I never did in any series except Samsho4. Even this new version is not the best, the best game will be coming in a short time to come. Therefore, I do highly give a good credit on this new version of Samsho AW. 2005.

No offense, but that "final conclusion" is the biggest pile of cheese i've ever read regarding a loke test:

1) No-one at all can say the game is "amazing" (especially when most people were only getting to play it for 2/3 rounds on average) - it's not even close to being complete, balance hasn't been brought into the picture and it's most likely all the games potential features haven't been even implemented yet.

2) Samsho4 needed a heck lot more done to it than "add a bit and fix it" to make it a good game - personal opinion there.

3) Anyone even remotely creditable in the SS scene would never call Special a "Samurai-wanna-be game for a couple of years" since the game had more in common with SS2 and is regarded by most as the second best game in the series (behind SS2).

4) "The bottom line is this game provides a good graphic quality and its game play that makes better sense than other series." - firstly, refer to point 1, then also take into account that a lot of people that seen the game running actually said it looked very unfinished and pretty bad in action. Which is a common thing to happen at the first loke test since it is mainly there to give an impression of the initial fighting engine the game will be using, all the additional graphical tarting up happens later.

5) The loke test didn't even go as planned since the machine ran into "technical difficulties" (or in Iggy's words "it broke so they had to switch to vs. cpu") so I seriously doubt anyone could make a clear cut picture of how good the game was on a competitive basis from the initial test.

6) "I do not like those new characters neither like I never did in any series except Samsho4." - Geez, stop the biased opinions already, the new characters in SS4 were probably the most laziest additions to the series since they were essential sprite edits with a few different moves. Before anyone says anything, I actually do like Kazuki and Sogestsu quite a lot, but they were still lazy in their creation and characters like Cham Cham and Sieger were considerable better IMO.

7) "Even this new version is not the best, the best game will be coming in a short time to come. Therefore, I do highly give a good credit on this new version of Samsho AW. 2005." - I say it again, NO-ONE CAN MAKE A COMMENT LIKE THAT!

Sorry for sounding up-tight here but I hate it when people fire out "final conclusions" on a game that isn't even complete and will probably change alot by the time of its release.

[RWD]

I love how you, everytime someone says something negative about SS4, say something like "you obviously can't play it" or make some dumb comment about MvC (which I never even mentioned) - the ironic thing is, even people on this board have said your not much good at SS4 yourself and no, you wouldn't be able to beat me, but thats a mute point since we wouldn't even be able to have a stable online match to settle anything, so please, stop doing the pot-kettle-black approach to posting... it just doesn't work.

The point of the last post was not to go on about SS2 (which this new game has been compared too), but to say that anyone who has played the new SS only got a few rounds at the most, on a far-from-complete build of the game, and that they cannot possibly give some form of "final conclusion".

One last thing, SS4 has NEVER been regarded as the best SS, not once, most of the scene back in the day didn't care much about the game, but gave it credit for fixing alot of what went wrong with SS3 - you guys can like SS4 all you want, who am I to say what you can and can't enjoy? but you (p100q) are obviously insecure about something when you go into whinge mode everytime I say something negative about the game.

So, lets get this sorted once and for all:

You like SS4 - thus you like to talk about it.
I don't like SS4 - thus I won't talk about it.
We BOTH like the SS series - at least I hope.
That's all cool.
You haven't played SS: AW, so stop posting like you actually know something.
I haven't played SS: AW, so lets have some fun with posting ideas and theories.
The people that HAVE played SS: AW have NOT played it enough to construct any form of solid opinion, so stop trying to convince yourself otherwise.
Stop saying dumb stuff about other games you know nothing about.
Lets all try to get along without whining everytime someone says something you don't like (do you see me complaining when you say something negative about SS2 or Special? no you don't) - contribute, don't cry about.

Alright? Good! I'm tired of arguing with you on every thread so lets try and keep the peace for everyones sake.

[giveitamplz]

hey rwd, youre a dumb black person- NO ONE CAN HAVE AN OPINION EXPRESSING THEIR OPINION!!!

[RWD]

Haha, excellent contribution there giveitamplz - now please, STFU until you have something worthy to say past 1 poorly constructed sentence that is supposed to be an attempt at English.

[Moonruler]

giveitamplz said:

hey rwd, youre a dumb black person- NO ONE CAN HAVE AN OPINION EXPRESSING THEIR OPINION!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!!!!!! So this is what it's come to. First, it's if RWD or anyone for that matter doesn't like SS4(which I like) that means that automatically he doesn't know anything about the game (wow such an intelligent way of reasoning ) and then it comes down to racism. I'm crying from laughing!! giveitamplz, u need to start taking the short bus to school. I mean not only does ur attempt to make a racist comment fail miserably, but u don't even make sense with ur last comment. let's make this simple: EDUCATION=GOOD
DRUGS=BAD. Be a good little boy and go back to school or start paying attention. U might not be mocked next time and who knows, u might even be able to form a full sentence. Also lay off the racist comments. It's a gaming discussion (however much people don't like to listen to reason, hint, hint....).

[RWD]

Moonruler said:

First, it's if RWD or anyone for that matter doesn't like SS4(which I like) that means that automatically he doesn't know anything about the game (wow such an intelligent way of reasoning )

Meh, people should remember Arturo Sanchez (Sabin) - he didn't like MvC1 but it certainly didn't stop him becoming one of America's finest players of the game and all-round money taker at tournaments.